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I m a regular cust of one of the Hse in L18. Just found out that the gals boss always take their earnings after their work. Is there solution from stopping the boss to take their earnigs other than going to the police. Some of them just start workin recently and they don't have any saving cuz other boss take their money. Sometime they also don't have enough to eat. THIS IS NO FUCKING JOKE.:mad: Anyway, i am a very old samster using a new ID.
Don't ask me which is the Hse cuz i won't say anything. Maybe next week you guys will know cuz one of the Hse in L18 is going to closed down soon........
Jailbyrd
18-07-2003, 09:31 PM
bro lotr, i understand how you feel man.. sucks when you hear about shit like this going on.. can't really say anything nor offer much help though, sorry..
factor-x
18-07-2003, 10:01 PM
boss take their earnings?
maybe boss give em on monthly basis, cause knowing these girls, they'll probably anyhow spend on shopping if they take it on a daily basis.
some bosses "keep-sake" the girls' money for em and give them when a year or so is up. this is a method practised by them to make the girl honour their contract even when the going's tough. go back early and forgo your money.
they can voice out to Anti-Vice during their "coffee-sessions" with them.
KID278
20-07-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by LOTR
Don't ask me which is the Hse cuz i won't say anything. Maybe next week you guys will know cuz one of the Hse in L18 is going to closed down soon........
I dont suppose you're burning that house down or you had made a complaint for them....:D
Cheers.
Kid278.
bradpitt968
20-07-2003, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by LOTR
I m a regular cust of one of the Hse in L18. Just found out that the gals boss always take their earnings after their work. Is there solution from stopping the boss to take their earnigs other than going to the police. Some of them just start workin recently and they don't have any saving cuz other boss take their money. Sometime they also don't have enough to eat. THIS IS NO FUCKING JOKE.:mad: Anyway, i am a very old samster using a new ID.
Hmm... that's bad... maybe u could bring it up to the MP during the Meet-the-pple session??
Just kidding... = ) LOL!!
TheUnforgiven
20-07-2003, 02:46 PM
One of my old regulars once told me her OKT shortchange her on one or two sessions everyday. At first, she thought it was her mistake and she decided to count towels. Sure enough, she was always paid one or two sessions less for what she worked for. I asked her if going to the anti-vice was a good idea but she pleaded me not to do so. Does anyone know specifically what can be done about these errant OKTs?
factor-x
20-07-2003, 02:55 PM
AV has sessions with them to discuss such matters.
If they refuses to voice out to their only "workers' union" and "watchers" of their bosses, can't think of any other productive ways to curb this malicious behaviour of these OKTs.
But living under someone else's roof, turning the tables on them isn't a very pleasant thing to do and may in fact worsen the situation.
Tough.
Screwed-up society once again.
Jailbyrd
20-07-2003, 05:21 PM
what bro factor-x said is right.. from our standpoint, quite simple and straightforward, albeit rash, complain to AV lor.. but for them, things are a lot more complicated.. considering the fact that they live under that OKT's roof, getting him in trouble isn't gonna improve the situation much.. like what bro factor-x said, it'll probably worsen things.. should any of us decide to be hero and go complain, bear in mind we're not really doing them a favor.. their only real and sensible option is to talk things through with the OKT themselves, but even then it is still no guarantee of things working out.. gotta sympathize with them man, completely helpless.. hai..
siamcutey
20-07-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
One of my old regulars once told me her OKT shortchange her on one or two sessions everyday. At first, she thought it was her mistake and she decided to count towels. Sure enough, she was always paid one or two sessions less for what she worked for. I asked her if going to the anti-vice was a good idea but she pleaded me not to do so. Does anyone know specifically what can be done about these errant OKTs?
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?
Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.
hahaha
SC
XiaoHoUzi83
20-07-2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by siamcutey
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?
Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.
hahaha
SC
rather agree with bro siamcutey...
she might be pulling a fast one on u...
Cos this type of matter tell u also no use...
what she expects u to do?
if she is really serious abt getting the money back then should talk to the AV...
really no point telling us customers... the MAX MAX MAX we could do is give a little tips... temp only....
as there is a saying .. it only "Zhi(4) Biao(1) Bu(4) Zhi(4) ben(3)"
Jailbyrd
20-07-2003, 10:34 PM
we never know though.. there's always the possibility that they're taking us for a ride with their stories, but then again, maybe they're just looking for an listening ear.. i'll give them the benefit of the doubt lah, but i won't do anything.. this way, don't have to feel bad for doubting her if it turns out to be true, don't have to risk getting fooled if it turns out to be false.. haha..
TheUnforgiven
20-07-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by siamcutey
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?
Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.
hahaha
SC
SC, whether my case is true or false, i don't bother to probe since I have dumped her a long way back. the fact is, such things have happened before, whether it was mentioned in the forum or told to me by the bfs of those working in GL houses. no smoke without fire right?
tips? i don't think so, she knows i'm a cheap charlie. haha
bradpitt968
21-07-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
One of my old regulars once told me her OKT shortchange her on one or two sessions everyday. At first, she thought it was her mistake and she decided to count towels. Sure enough, she was always paid one or two sessions less for what she worked for. I asked her if going to the anti-vice was a good idea but she pleaded me not to do so. Does anyone know specifically what can be done about these errant OKTs?
This is like our army days... if u kana "marked" by the CSM or whoever.... it's always best if u could settle with that person directly... face to face.... would complaining to OC or CO helps?
You tell me....
bradpitt968
21-07-2003, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by siamcutey
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?
Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.
hahaha
SC
U like that say also sound reasonable... think we should just play along lah....
Maybe i should told u guys which hse i m talking about so u all will believe me or if anyone is going GL today, just drop by L18 and see which hse got only two to three gals working today. Now its getting worst. Their boss don't allow them to switch on their light, aircon and fan also. They are also not allow to go out so that they can't go to Anti-Vice. BTW Bro factor-x, the girls are paid daily after their work. Somemore their boss not only take theirs earning for the pass one week also that he owe all the girls money. My regulars in that hse complain to me that he had owe them a total of $4000-$10000 each and loan sharks always come to the hse to take money. Maybe if anybody at Anti-Vice see this, please help those girls.
BTW, the girls have complain to their two OKTs before for a lot of times but what they did is only scold the boss. The OKTs also told the girls go to Anti-Vice or stop working which they can't do anything if the boss take the money like this since the hse is under his name.
factor-x
21-07-2003, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
Maybe i should told u guys which hse i m talking about so u all will believe me or if anyone is going GL today, just drop by L18 and see which hse got only two to three gals working today. Now its getting worst. Their boss don't allow them to switch on their light, aircon and fan also. They are also not allow to go out so that they can't go to Anti-Vice. BTW Bro factor-x, the girls are paid daily after their work. Somemore their boss not only take theirs earning for the pass one week also that he owe all the girls money. My regulars in that hse complain to me that he had owe them a total of $4000-$10000 each and loan sharks always come to the hse to take money. Maybe if anybody at Anti-Vice see this, please help those girls.
BTW, the girls have complain to their two OKTs before for a lot of times but what they did is only scold the boss. The OKTs also told the girls go to Anti-Vice or stop working which they can't do anything if the boss take the money like this since the hse is under his name.
No light/aircon/fan how to work?
It's true every house have their own set of problems, it's up to the management to resolve this with the girls involved.
Whether the girls are paid daily is subjective to the boss's agreement with the girls / management style of the house.
They have to go out when their medical check-up is due. And these sometimes comes along with a AV visits/interviews.
If you are unhappy with the management style in a complex kind of service industry, might want to consider paying the Superintendent of Specialised Crime Division/CID a visit.
391 New Bridge Road
CID Tower, Block C
Police Cantonment Complex
=)
-have yet to see a house w/out problems-
TheUnforgiven
21-07-2003, 10:49 PM
Have heard one or two things from the GL grapevine today. I now know what house LOTR is referring to. Apparently, this source is reliable and what LOTR says is true. Anyway, this isn't the first time I heard things about this house. I have been asked to keep my mouth shut until this house closes down. Or if it turns out to be bullshit, I can give that fella who provided me this info a verbal fucking.
Direngrey
22-07-2003, 10:37 AM
...
The girls was threaten to work yesterday. Their boss told them that he will not allow them to go out, no HP, no talking to friends after work time. If anybody go to L18 around 5 - 6pm yesterday and went inside the hse, they could see the boss banging on their doors and told them to open the door or else they will have trouble. He also told them that he will keep their passport not allow them to go home or go out and change the lock of the main door. That why most of the girls were scare and started to cry. If anyone been chionging GL long enough will know which Hse i am talking about since the boss was well known for his GAMBLE HABIT.
Btw, if half of the girls made a complain to the AV officer, could they allow to change Hse.
Anyway, the boss told them to wait until next month so he can pay them back the money. Just to help them to keep the finger cross now.....
KID278
22-07-2003, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
The girls was threaten to work yesterday. Their boss told them that he will not allow them to go out, no HP, no talking to friends after work time. If anybody go to L18 around 5 - 6pm yesterday and went inside the hse, they could see the boss banging on their doors and told them to open the door or else they will have trouble. He also told them that he will keep their passport not allow them to go home or go out and change the lock of the main door. That why most of the girls were scare and started to cry. If anyone been chionging GL long enough will know which Hse i am talking about since the boss was well known for his GAMBLE HABIT.
Btw, if half of the girls made a complain to the AV officer, could they allow to change Hse.
Anyway, the boss told them to wait until next month so he can pay them back the money. Just to help them to keep the finger cross now.....
Brudder, the last resort to their plight, an open option is to contact their embassy to approach av but things will get messy and they might risk being sent back.
Cheers.
Kid278.
Originally posted by KID278
Brudder, the last resort to their plight, an open option is to contact their embassy to approach av but things will get messy and they might risk being sent back.
Cheers.
Kid278.
That's why only half of the gals willing to go to the AV.:mad: The others decided to stay and wait. :(
Piranas
22-07-2003, 06:33 PM
L18 huh? Is the OKT thin thin one, always say customer is Andy Lau if he view too long? :mad:
Originally posted by Piranas
L18 huh? Is the OKT thin thin one, always say customer is Andy Lau if he view too long? :mad:
Most of the OKTs are thin thin one but of the Andy Lau part, i don't think he say that. The OKTs in that hse are very good and allow the cust to sit inside the hse for a long time before making their choice.:)
KID278
22-07-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
That's why only half of the gals willing to go to the AV. The others decided to stay and wait.
Wait for what.....if you are saying half of the gals willing then what's the problem...to my knowledge more than two complaints should be good enough to warrant an av investigation...:p
Cheers.
Kid278.
Originally posted by KID278
Wait for what.....if you are saying half of the gals willing then what's the problem...to my knowledge more than two complaints should be good enough to warrant an av investigation...:p
Cheers.
Kid278.
The other gals told those who wants to go to AV to wait and see. Not much chioce since all of them are living under the same roof and some of their best friend won't go and started to find trouble for them if they go. :(
But if the AV officers go to that hse, they will bring it out.
That's why i post this thread just to get the AV officers attention and have a look at that hse. They should known which hse i am talking about since this is not the first time.
KID278
22-07-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
The other gals told those who wants to go to AV to wait and see. Not much chioce since all of them are living under the same roof and some of their best friend won't go and started to find trouble for them if they go. :(
But if the AV officers go to that hse, they will bring it out.
That's why i post this thread just to get the AV officers attention and have a look at that hse. They should known which hse i am talking about since this is not the first time.
Dont be silly, av will hardly act on outside complaints let alone what's being mentioned here....nobody can help those gals if they dont even want to help themselves...:p
Cheers.
kid278.
Jailbyrd
22-07-2003, 09:31 PM
aiyah.. it's real saddening to hear about such stuff, the predicament that they're in.. as it is, it's bad enough that they gotta leave their homes to come here and work as prostitutes (despite the fact that i patronise them, i can't help but feel their sorrow), come here liao still gotta face such shit.. hai..
TheUnforgiven
22-07-2003, 09:52 PM
LOTR, i suggest you go to the AV straight. I believe you have the appropriate means to find out how to get that house closed down instead of waiting for the girls to sneak out.
Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
LOTR, i suggest you go to the AV straight. I believe you have the appropriate means to find out how to get that house closed down instead of waiting for the girls to sneak out.
Ya. Maybe i could do that. But still, i don't want to find any trouble for my regulars and their friends as some of the OKTs in GL knows what i am talking about since they know about this website and one of them told me straight away about the things happen in that hse now and before.
But come to think of it, the gals come to Singapore to work so hard just to get a better life when go back home and their boss do this type of stuff to them. Some of them told me not to tell anyone about the things happen in that hse since they are also scare that i could be in trouble cuz the real boos of that hse is quite a 'powerful' guy in GL.
TheUnforgiven
22-07-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
Some of them told me not to tell anyone about the things happen in that hse since they are also scare that i could be in trouble cuz the real boos of that hse is quite a 'powerful' guy in GL.
Gangsterism in singapore is bullshit, whether it's teenager ah bengs or ah pehs drinking beer in kopitiam. The biggest gangsters in Singapore is the Zheng Hoo Tong. This gang has a smaller sect called the Anti Vice. Who can beat them?
Direngrey
22-07-2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
Gangsterism in singapore is bullshit, whether it's teenager ah bengs or ah pehs drinking beer in kopitiam. The biggest gangsters in Singapore is the Zheng Hoo Tong. This gang has a smaller sect called the Anti Vice. Who can beat them?
Haha. That a good one. But Bro Unforgiven, if Bro LOTR made a complain for them, not only will the hse be closed oso that the girls can't get back the money the boss owe them. It's so sad to heard the type of shit happen in GL.
Maybe the AV officers so be more strict to the boss and okts not the girls working at GL.
factor-x
22-07-2003, 11:54 PM
S*F quite a powerful gang too. backing of government, disciplined, regimental, has its own range of arsenal, members have uniforms, abide by a pledge and its rules.
am glad i just got out of this gang. gangsterism is definitely not for me. ORD LOH!!!!
back to the gist of this thread...
only girls can help themselves in internal disputes & scuffles. Change main lock, come medical inspection, girls still have to go out, or next thing you do, AV's knocking on the door.
Any mishandlings on the part of the "owner" deemed the boss of the house after completion of investigation by the relevant authority, pimping license will be revoked, house will not be allowed to be re-registered as a prostitute joint for 10 years. Current resident WLs in the house will be allocated to other houses or be sent back to Thailand. Many factors affect their "posting" which includes contract liability owed, medical history etc. Selection of houses to be "posted" to is unknown at time of this post.
only girls can help themselves...
did the boss confiscate their handphones?
compulsory medical-check-ups DO come along with AV talks...
XiaoHoUzi83
23-07-2003, 12:03 AM
best way still go AV lahx....
Delaying Wages can sue one lohx...
and the Mighty zhen hu will ORDEREd whoever responsible to return what is due....
unless he Declare bankrupt lahx...
The gers Still can Ger more as a form of compensation for the delay...
by then the OKT will Sell out his BOOKIE lahx...
let the AV get to the bottom of this...
really they r the only one who could help u
....
TheUnforgiven
23-07-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by factor-x
S*F quite a powerful gang too. backing of government, disciplined, regimental, has its own range of arsenal, members have uniforms, abide by a pledge and its rules.
am glad i just got out of this gang. gangsterism is definitely not for me. ORD LOH!!!!
S*F still not as guai lan as Zheng Hoo. You ever see those plain clothes guai lan with before or not? Knn, if I got backing of Zheng Hoo, I will also go around strutting my stuff.
Originally posted by Direngrey
if Bro LOTR made a complain for them, not only will the hse be closed oso that the girls can't get back the money the boss owe them. It's so sad to heard the type of shit happen in GL.
True enough. That why they all decided to wait till next month to get their money back cuz their boss told them if he didn't give the money back to the girls, they can do whatever things they like.
Just keep my finger double cross for them now.
I WILL BE BACK...
TheUnforgiven
23-07-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
True enough. That why they all decided to wait till next month to get their money back cuz their boss told them if he didn't give the money back to the girls, they can do whatever things they like.
Just keep my finger double cross for them now.
I WILL BE BACK...
to LOTR: you damned lame sia... ( u know what i mean ) ;)
KID278
24-07-2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by LOTR
True enough. That why they all decided to wait till next month to get their money back cuz their boss told them if he didn't give the money back to the girls, they can do whatever things they like.
Just keep my finger double cross for them now.
I WILL BE BACK...
Geezz....next month, banks open every working days, not just once a month. Get yourself some good sleeps, dont try and make their problems yours. You have your limits, remember that....:p
Cheers.
Kid278.
Montbank
24-07-2003, 09:38 AM
Even now, Zhen Hoo plain clothes will hoot liao then talk one leh.. you think just ask ask shine light only ? No care one okay..
And so experienced they are, cannot check for injuries one..
factor-x
24-07-2003, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Montbank
Even now, Zhen Hoo plain clothes will hoot liao then talk one leh.. you think just ask ask shine light only ? No care one okay..
And so experienced they are, cannot check for injuries one..
haha, shine light+talk kok+coffee+cigarette treat only happens on tv.
Montbank
24-07-2003, 09:53 AM
Up to the bros to believe, I have seen some of these things happened.
Been in the detention cell before for something before, see and hear things from some kena by the plain clothes..
Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
to LOTR: you damned lame sia... ( u know what i mean ) ;)
Ya Lor. Can't do anything.:(
After much persuasions, they finally agreed to go to Anti-Vice. When arrived there, they also saw their boss at the police station.
Their boss was very shock to see all of the girls over there. Then the AV officer began to ask those girls what happened. They told them that their boss had not paid them for the pass 2 weeks and also owed them a lot of money.
The boss had aready told the AV officers that he owed the girls money last month and he was told to retured it by 2 months time but he had not told the officers the correct amount of money he owed. When those officers heard what the girls told them, they received a shock cuz that's way too much from what the boss told them. Their boss was told to retured it by 2 months time or else the hse will be closed down.
Now every thing is back to normal. Thanks to u guys for giving me suggestions.;)
suckerll
30-07-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
Now every thing is back to normal. Thanks to u guys for giving me suggestions.;) so tell us which house is it so that we can patronise the gals n help them earn more $$$ qucikly to go home ok? :D
TheUnforgiven
30-07-2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
Their boss was told to retured it by 2 months time or else the hse will be closed down.
I thought you told me the house would be instantly shut down if the girls complained. -_-
Direngrey
31-07-2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
I thought you told me the house would be instantly shut down if the girls complained. -_-
The boss autually go to tell the AV officers before the girls. That's why the AV officers give him another chance so he could pay back the girls. I think.:confused:
TheUnforgiven
31-07-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Direngrey
The boss autually go to tell the AV officers before the girls. That's why the AV officers give him another chance so he could pay back the girls. I think.:confused:
this is not thailand leh. got this kind of "cham siong" shit meh.
factor-x
31-07-2003, 10:37 PM
Cham-siong is everywhere, i think.
Just how well-wrapped under covers or how tight-lips those involved are plugs the leaks.
KID278
31-07-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
this is not thailand leh. got this kind of "cham siong" shit meh.
that's a very interesting question....it give rise to further questions like what if the okt default, abscond or even demised...will the gals be left high and dry or will av stand in to settle the dues which is highly unlikely....:p
Cheers.
Kid278.
suckerll
31-07-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by KID278
that's a very interesting question....it give rise to further questions like what if the okt default, abscond or even demised...will the gals be left high and dry or will av stand in to settle the dues which is highly unlikely....:p
Cheers.
Kid278. that's why AV in this case lan lan let the house operate mah. but once everything settle i think he'll get into some shit man!
KID278
31-07-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by suckerll
that's why AV in this case lan lan let the house operate mah. but once everything settle i think he'll get into some shit man!
AV is the regulator, they will never be lan lan. There are many ways in taking actions, they certainly will not be led by the nose...:p
Cheers.
Kid278.
suckerll
02-08-2003, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by KID278
AV is the regulator, they will never be lan lan. There are many ways in taking actions, they certainly will not be led by the nose...:p
Cheers.
Kid278. perhaps should rephrase it as lan lan temporarily huh? then when everything settled they'll wack that guy jialat jialat for disobeying them :p
KID278
02-08-2003, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by suckerll
perhaps should rephrase it as lan lan temporarily huh? then when everything settled they'll wack that guy jialat jialat for disobeying them :p
Actually we dont know how they handle such cases nowadays. The okts for taking the gals money had already commited an offence and that's misappropriation or embezzlement. They can be charge in court just like those boss of ordinary foreign workers. The court can then order them to pay restitution. I guess in this case the okt may prefer to go to jail rather than paying..:p
Cheers.
Kid278.
suckerll
02-08-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by KID278
Actually we dont know how they handle such cases nowadays. The okts for taking the gals money had already commited an offence and that's misappropriation or embezzlement. They can be charge in court just like those boss of ordinary foreign workers. The court can then order them to pay restitution. I guess in this case the okt may prefer to go to jail rather than paying..:p
Cheers.
Kid278. charge in court? n what will it appear in our silly times? "Brothel owner charged for embazzling money of his prostitutes"?
don't think so rite? since prostitution is technically illegal still in sgland:p
factor-x
02-08-2003, 12:12 PM
Prostitution is technically legal in Singapore, but its many restrictions includes:
1) prohibiting the selling or buying of any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution either inside or outside the country.
This means that the girl has to be a willing party, no girl trafficked in solely for the sex trade is legal.
Ref: Section 140(1)(a)
2) it's illegal to live off a prostitute's money. A person is deemed to be knowingly doing so if he/she controls, directs or influences the movements of the prostitute in concern.
Thus, any OKTs not registered and who "owns" a girl and take the girl's money earned thru providing sexual service is not a legal move. Any registered OKTs who offers girls not registered is also comitting an offence.
Ref: Section 146.
Originally posted by siamcutey
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?
Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.
hahaha
SC
exactly what i think.
KID278
02-08-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by suckerll
charge in court? n what will it appear in our silly times? "Brothel owner charged for embazzling money of his prostitutes"?
don't think so rite? since prostitution is technically illegal still in sgland:p
What is the surprise? Brothel owner is not above the law.
Prostitution in sgland is legitimate with a permit, it is not technically illegal, there is a difference, you should understand that..:D
Cheers.
Kid278.
hoodlum
02-08-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by factor-x
Prostitution is technically legal in Singapore, but its many restrictions includes:
1) prohibiting the selling or buying of any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution either inside or outside the country.
This means that the girl has to be a willing party, no girl trafficked in solely for the sex trade is legal.
Ref: Section 140(1)(a)
2) it's illegal to live off a prostitute's money. A person is deemed to be knowingly doing so if he/she controls, directs or influences the movements of the prostitute in concern.
Thus, any OKTs not registered and who "owns" a girl and take the girl's money earned thru providing sexual service is not a legal move. Any registered OKTs who offers girls not registered is also comitting an offence.
Ref: Section 146.
If I remember correctly, prostitution is technically illegal in all Muslim countries (read Malaysia, Indonesia, etc), Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, China and more. Yes, even Thailand.
How they circumvent that is another issue.
hoodlum
KID278
02-08-2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by hoodlum
If I remember correctly, prostitution is technically illegal in all Muslim countries (read Malaysia, Indonesia, etc), Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, China and more. Yes, even Thailand.
How they circumvent that is another issue.
hoodlum
You are right. Muslims prohibits, they outlawed it. Its legitimacy is subjected to a particular country's system of law and that includes even the west and europe.:D
Cheers.
Kid278.
hoodlum
02-08-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by KID278
You are right. Muslims prohibits, they outlawed it. Its legitimacy is subjected to a particular country's system of law and that includes even the west and europe.
Cheers.
Kid278.
Yo Kid
hope you are not in any Muslim country.:D That said, I trust you have your 'lobang' to circumvent that.
cheers
hoodlum
KID278
02-08-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by hoodlum
Yo Kid
hope you are not in any Muslim country. That said, I trust you have your 'lobang' to circumvent that.
cheers
hoodlum
Yo hoodlum,....not much happening but not a moose limp one....hehehe....:D yupz....not convenient but still do sneak around entrapments for a catch once a while....:D
Cheers.
Kid278.
Originally posted by sdfr
exactly what i think.
CCB. IF U DUN KNOW ANYTHING THAT I SAID,
SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Direngrey
03-08-2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by yomun
Last time your location is 'Always at GL'. Not it's 'Always at home'. Haha.
Don't tell me it's that house? My good friend ok or not?
Which one? Now there are only the boss and the one which had tattoos on his body. The other one had left there cos too much problems.
The girls over there are still ok.....
BTW, GL is my second home.;)
Direngrey
03-08-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by yomun
I'm talking about our favourite house. You mean my favourite OKT has left? Damn.
Ya. He has left there.:( . Look on the bright side, when there is no one around to look after the girls, they can get 1-2 hrs off.;)
hoodlum
04-08-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by yomun
... Shiok reminds me of B-Course service in Emmanuelle. Maybe next time buy one rubber mattress and put in her room. Then book her overnight for B-Course. Hahahahaha!
rubber mattress?... keke... think of that also hardon.:D The only thing missing is the bucket of foam.:D
cheers mate
hoodlum
hoodlum
04-08-2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by yomun
Nice to hear from you again. The bucket of foam can be arranged easily. Hehe have you been to Club 20 lately? Hope to see you in BKK if there's a chance and have a drink in the club. Cheers.
Unfortunately not since April... Did managed to squeeze Forte into the schedule in June though... Seems like you're stationed perpetually in BKK... lucky bloke.:D
Will definitely call you when I'm in BKK again.
cheers
hoodlum
The girls went to anti-vice today again. But those STUPID AV OFFICER KEEP ON TURSTING THEIR BOSS AND THEY DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT THE GIRLS SAID. Their real big boss of the house said that he can pay all the money to the girls but the boss don't want that and HE TOLD THOSE AV OFFICERS THAT IT'S THE REAL BOSS THAT WANT TO TAKE THE GIRLS MONEY, CREATE PROBLEM FOR THE HOUSE AND TRY TO HIT THE GIRLS. NOW THE BOSS STILL DON'T PAY THE GIRLS AND EVERY OKTS AND THE BOSSES OF OTHER HOUSES AT GL KNOWS THAT HE HAVE BEEN SENDING MONEY BACK TO HIS WIFE AND KID IN THAILAND.
IS THERE ANYWAY TO WAKEUP THOSE STUPID AV OFFICERS NOT TO TURST THE BOSS?
BY THE WAY, THE BOSS DID HIT SOME OF THE GIRLS AND NOW MOST OF THE GILS ARE SCARE OF HIM AND DARE NOT SAID ANYTHING.
Originally posted by KID278
What is the surprise? Brothel owner is not above the law.
But there are things which u don't understand. He can said whatever shit to those AV OFFICERS and they are still stupid enough to turst him. :(
THE ANTI-VICE OFFICERS ARE JUST TOO LAZY TO HEARD WHAT THE GIRLS SAID.
KID278
08-08-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
But there are things which u don't understand. He can said whatever shit to those AV OFFICERS and they are still stupid enough to turst him.
THE ANTI-VICE OFFICERS ARE JUST TOO LAZY TO DO HEARD WHAT THE GIRLS SAID.
Brudder, can you stop using big fonts...it's not only irritating, it's also wasting bandwidth....:( Anyway, like I say dont try to make their problems yours, you have your limits. You are not even related to them, besides what good will it do screaming in here, you only pisses people off.
AV are not idiots, they have directives to follow and they dont simply listens to any sides. They dont get themselves involved if they sees it as silly trivial matters such as house quarrels. If the gals are serious enough they can always blow things up, boycott and stop working and demand to go home. Lodge a report, a complaint with the police, AV themselves is the police and when things get serious they will handle it from there....:o
Cheers.
Kid278.
factor-x
08-08-2003, 10:13 PM
What's a turst? Hoping to catch the AV's attention by using childish large fonts for lengthy paragraphs?
If you are so genuinely concerned, make an appointment with Assistant Director Superintendent Lee Swee Thin, CID. Contactable @ 64350000.
If you are truly genuinely concerned and are too hard up to hire professional legal advice, I have a few undergrad. friends studying Law @ NUS/doing their internships at firms. If you are interested to seek advice in such matters, pm me, I can fix you guys up at no fees, coffee will do.
If you aint interested in helping the girls by making such moves, quit your large font whining here already.
Absolute_Lust
08-08-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
The girls went to anti-vice today again. But those STUPID AV OFFICER KEEP ON TURSTING THEIR BOSS AND THEY DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT THE GIRLS SAID.Their real big boss of the house said that he can pay all the money to the girls but the boss don't want that and HE TOLD THOSE AV OFFICERS THAT IT'S THE REAL BOSS THAT WANT TO TAKE THE GIRLS MONEY, CREATE PROBLEM FOR THE HOUSE AND TRY TO HIT THE GIRLS. NOW THE BOSS STILL DON'T PAY THE GIRLS AND EVERY OKTS AND THE BOSSES OF OTHER HOUSES AT GL KNOWS THAT HE HAVE BEEN SENDING MONEY BACK TO HIS WIFE AND KID IN THAILAND.
IS THERE ANYWAY TO WAKEUP THOSE STUPID AV OFFICERS NOT TO TURST THE BOSS?
BY THE WAY, THE BOSS DID HIT SOME OF THE GIRLS AND NOW MOST OF THE GILS ARE SCARE OF HIM AND DARE NOT SAID ANYTHING.
Why wait? Bring it up to a higher level, bring this up to the embassy like what KID278 had mentioned.....
Dun wait..... I hate people do things wait and see..... its not playing poker cards here..... if the AV dun want to solve it...... then get someone higher in authorties to look into this.....
suckerll
08-08-2003, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Absolute_Lust
Why wait? Bring it up to a higher level, bring this up to the embassy like what KID278 had mentioned.....
Dun wait..... I hate people do things wait and see..... its not playing poker cards here..... if the AV dun want to solve it...... then get someone higher in authorties to look into this..... yeah he should go and see his MP to lodge a complaint or even go see the minister of home affairs Mr Wong!
Originally posted by KID278
If the gals are serious enough they can always blow things up, boycott and stop working and demand to go home. Lodge a report, a complaint with the police, AV themselves is the police and when things get serious they will handle it from there....:o
Cheers.
Kid278.
They have try that all. That why i said that their boss hit them before and the AV officers won't look into it.:mad:
KID278
09-08-2003, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by LOTR
They have try that all. That why i said that their boss hit them before and the AV officers won't look into it.:mad:
These gals maybe in this line but their rights are still protected. They've tried everything?? I doubt so. They maybe seeing the wrong person in AV. Try higher level or blow things up, lodge a report. Ill treatment or slave prostitution, anything to warrant an investigation. Demand to go back with the help of their consul, they usually dont like this but they dont have a choice.
I believe the gals are not telling you everything. Most of the time the gals are too timid to do anything when they faces the authorities or they are still hoping to get their money back by waiting. Nobody can help them if they dont help themselves, they have to understand that.
Cheers.
Kid278.
Originally posted by KID278
These gals maybe in this line but their rights are still protected. They've tried everything?? I doubt so. They maybe seeing the wrong person in AV. Try higher level or blow things up, lodge a report. Ill treatment or slave prostitution, anything to warrant an investigation. Demand to go back with the help of their consul, they usually dont like this but they dont have a choice.
Which AV Officer should they see cos their boss always see the same officer when they go to the police station.
I believe the gals are not telling you everything. Most of the time the gals are too timid to do anything when they faces the authorities or they are still hoping to get their money back by waiting. Nobody can help them if they dont help themselves, they have to understand that.
They did tell me everything. Whatever i said here it's true.
Absolute_Lust
09-08-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by LOTR
Which AV Officer should they see cos their boss always see the same officer when they go to the police station.
They did tell me everything. Whatever i said here it's true.
KID278 has given the advise.... bring it to higher level..... stop complaining.... and get the job done..... waiting for what....?!?! Christmas!?!?
People here had place their comments and advise.... then take the advise and do it!!!!
Dun u know all this talking over this thread is so called NATO(No Action Talk Only)
Originally posted by Absolute_Lust
KID278 has given the advise.... bring it to higher level..... stop complaining.... and get the job done..... waiting for what....?!?! Christmas!?!?
People here had place their comments and advise.... then take the advise and do it!!!!
Dun u know all this talking over this thread is so called NATO(No Action Talk Only)
Action is done for two times but no vain. They have go to AV for two times and that why i ask which officers should they seek so i will talk to the girls again and tell them whom to see before going to Thai Embassy....
Absolute_Lust
09-08-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by LOTR
so i will talk to the girls again and tell them whom to see before going to Thai Embassy....
Then get it done.....
factor-x
09-08-2003, 12:44 PM
What a whinner.
:rolleyes:
Finally the house is going to close from today onward. All of the girls are ask to transfer.
There are 1 house less in GL now. :(
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