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Old 22-04-2019, 01:16 PM
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Re: KTV Virgin

I posted a variant of a reply to your questions in a separate thread. Link below. Reposted for easy reference

https://sbf.net.nz/showp...3&postcount=80

I read through this thread and some similar ones, and I realize that there are recurrent issues that pop up every now and then. Newbies always fall into the "paiseh" trap and give tips unnecessarily. I just want to share some of the tips that was taught to me very long ago, when I was a much younger and a much more cluless man, by older, much more experienced and very kind chiongsters. So, hoping to pass this forward in my own way.

Know how to use your money. Remember, you are ultimately the boss so you get to decide. Being predictable is the best, so is being upfront. Tell the mummy at the start of your outing that this outing amongst your friends is already pre-budgeted so the tips that you can give is limited. Let her know that you do not need all her asst mummies to come in, if they are busy and have other rooms. Just one mummy will do. If you really want to be introduced to her other assistants (who can be damn chio!) so that they can take one drink, exchange contact and all that - then do it, but there is absolutely no need to tip extra.

Waiters, cashiers and those who bring hot towels. Lots of chiongsters feel damn paiseh and happily let any waiter or waitress come in and "serve" them, then feel damn lost during bill time when all these people they can't remember ask for tips. I usually make it clear when I open the bill and order the drinks, which 2-3 waiters I want to serve my room. Do this openly, and at the very beginning when the lights are on, everyone is sober and mummy is also there.

Make it clear from the beginning that I will only want these few waiters to serve my group and nobody else. If the room is a big one, I will ask up to 5. The waiters should be pre-selected in the beginning and the head waiter amongst them has the responsibility of telling the other waiters to not come into the room. If these people are good, in future visits they will go on "auto" mode and you don't have to say anything - walk through the door, smile and your "waiter gang" will come follow you. lolz. In the room, good head waiters remember how each chiongster drinks - for example, my Supreme head waiter knows that when I come in, serve me half a glass of Martell "neat", and one separate glass of green tea with lots of ice. No words needed. Such is the advantage of being a regular and those who have established an identity.

If you can identify the head waiter (usually he wears a bit more formal than the rest of his staff), then talk to him upfront and make it clear that the waiter tips to him will be given at the end basis his staff service levels. He will be in charge of communicating your wishes to the rest. If someone die die want to come in and pour, no extra tips will be given.

Girls - whether butterfly or booking. A big topic in itself but there are some general guidelines.

Timing - don't expect to get "hot" and playable girls if you arrive more than one hour after session start. I repeatedly hear of clueless people arriving at 10.30pm on a full house situation on Fri and Sat (Supreme SH session) and expect to get "hot and playable" gals. As if they are the only chiongsters with $50 who are looking for such girls. Come early, if session start is 9, then please come at 9. It is true some of the very "hot" girls only do SH and not HH, because they are so heavily booked then do not have to collect HH tips to survive (besides, SH has more potential for ST and LT bookings after that)

Choice of girls - A much-misunderstood topic. KTV girls generally come in two flavours - House girls (Work permit tied to one KTV only) and "Freedom Pass" girls. You can always expect the House girl to be there if she is not sick or on leave. Freedom pass girls, you need to go through the mummy the first time around. My personal trick, if visiting a new KTV for the first time and I want to see girls that are not always available - is to go to the head mummy and ask for her recommendation, while slipping her an extra $50 upfront. Be specific about what you want, and obviously this $50 is to "buy" yourself into her special contact list. Many mummies will say that girls are not attached to mummies - all mummies can call all girls. That is only generally true, as human beings all girls have their favourite mummy who will intro them to "good" customers, so the $50 extra tip, upfront is to get you into the mummy's books that you are serious about wanting a girl to your specifications and you will get special access.

Butterfly tips - I just want to say, that if a girl disappears after an hour and does not come back please cancel her. Give her $20-$30, not $50. Only stupid or people who are too rich give the full session tip for half a session worth of fun. Give the cancellation fee to the mummy, and ask her not to let the girl come back. No need to face the girl directly.

Having fun - playability. Too deep a topic to delve into in one post, but some general guidelines. More fun can be had during SH vs HH because the girls would already be high from HH drinks. If you identify one you really like, please don't be a cheapskate and try to monopolize her with $50 - book her and give her the $250 (HH booking is $150, some KTV have super-late NH till 6am, the booking fee is generally also $150). And obviously, come early and not at 11pm lolz.

Short/Long-time bookings - generally if you are out for this type of fun and you want girls who are pre-selected for this purpose, always, always tip the mummy $50 extra, and in advance and ask her to bring in girls who can go out. The alternative to doing this is to play commando, get a girl high and find out that she is on her period and waste $50 lolz. Be aware that mummy can play this function of "pre-selecting" girls according to your criteria, but she expects you to "take care" of her doing that. Sometimes the big mummy will delegate this job to an asst mummy (who is usually a former girl but is now a bit older and hence want a more stable job) who is usually more clued in to who is having period and who is not.

I hope the above tips can make your chionging journey more fun and please share tips of your own, so that new chiongsters don't have to pay too much "tuition fee".

Happy chionging.