[Raynall]

I think howmuchperhour was referring to massage parlours found in western countries like Australia and USA. I haven't been to Australia, but when I was in San Francisco and wanted to visit their massage places around Chinatown, I was warned not to.

What howmuchperhour said is true. Massage parlours (with Asian girls) in those western cities are usually controlled by the triads. If you walk into one of these joints, and have issues with the quality of the girl/service or do not wish to have a 'special', you don't get to kick up a fuss, complain at the reception area or merely get out with nothing more than a sour look. What I heard was that the girl will summon the bouncers into the room who will rough you up and throw you out into the streets stark naked.

So yeah, those Asian run massage parlours are 'hei dian' like those strip bars in Soho (London).

Ray