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I had my fair share of ups and downs in the sugar industry. There were a few times where I trusted the SDs to transfer the allowance after we got intimate, they never did and went uncontactable. So SBs who are in this trade - always, always make sure you get your money before any intimacy!
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Re: My Story As A Sugar Baby

Sis, where do you find these SDs? Is it SA? I am just starting off with my SB next week. First time for me. Looking forward to hearing your experiences and tips! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: My Story As A Sugar Baby

Curious to know more. Please keep sharing, thanks
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Re: My Story As A Sugar Baby

Being a SB is actually hard work. I know many of you must have thought - what is so hard to just open your legs? When I first started, I thought it would be easy. I have a pleasant face, I dress well, I articulate well, etc. But I was so wrong. I am not available and out there for anyone, hence when I meet somebody, I do my homework well. I start to read alot more to improve my knowledge and keep myself updated with current affairs.

Trust me, an SB's looks/body is important but having a smart brain and good personality is what that will keep the SD coming back. You have to think of yourself as a business and as a business you need investors, which SDs are the ones.

If I may be honest, the sugar industry has been brought down by people who are not supposed to be in it. Low ballers, escorts, agents, free riders, etc. Men who does not fit in are in it, women who does not have what it takes are in it. I have learnt that being rich does not not mean being generous, and being middle - upper middle class does not mean he will not be generous.

I am currently taking a break from these. I do have a western SD who comes here once every few months for business, and I keep him company for the days that he is here. He is a true gentleman, a romantic, kind and sincere person.

My best return was $5000 for a week (only a night of intimacy) and a Chanel bag from a businessman - that makes it about $12,000. Ladies, a true SD will almost never ask you for what you want, because he should be very experienced and will know what will make a SB's heart flutter
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Re: My Story As A Sugar Baby

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Being a SB is actually hard work. I know many of you must have thought - what is so hard to just open your legs? When I first started, I thought it would be easy. I have a pleasant face, I dress well, I articulate well, etc. But I was so wrong. I am not available and out there for anyone, hence when I meet somebody, I do my homework well. I start to read alot more to improve my knowledge and keep myself updated with current affairs.

Trust me, an SB's looks/body is important but having a smart brain and good personality is what that will keep the SD coming back. You have to think of yourself as a business and as a business you need investors, which SDs are the ones.

If I may be honest, the sugar industry has been brought down by people who are not supposed to be in it. Low ballers, escorts, agents, free riders, etc. Men who does not fit in are in it, women who does not have what it takes are in it. I have learnt that being rich does not not mean being generous, and being middle - upper middle class does not mean he will not be generous.

I am currently taking a break from these. I do have a western SD who comes here once every few months for business, and I keep him company for the days that he is here. He is a true gentleman, a romantic, kind and sincere person.

My best return was $5000 for a week (only a night of intimacy) and a Chanel bag from a businessman - that makes it about $12,000. Ladies, a true SD will almost never ask you for what you want, because he should be very experienced and will know what will make a SB's heart flutter
What define a "upper middle class" because its differ depending on the age group you are in.

The S$5000 for a week and a chanel bag is definitely cool. There are really extreme rich people up there.

My best was to give my sugar baby 5400 and a gift worth 700 for 3 meeting. I think there is always people higher. and to have another SB at the same period(both my SB know i got 2 SB at that time) and give her 4k for 2 meets (but got dis-engage after I found out she still actively finding SD - means she not exclusive for me).

Low baller a lot, you just see the forum you know liao. Some want pay 10,000 but want everyday sex , some troll.

Some only pay after finish the deed, i also hear from cases where the guy dont pay after doing it. Some offer 1k , 2k and a lot here asking for FwB, some post their dick photo and think its arouse the lady.(maybe ? rare case) I think dick photo won't make the heart flutter for SB, its the money and the gentlemen , on how the SD treat the SB also.

Majority of Singaporean at 30s are only making at average 4k - 6k sgd, a SB cost at least 3k sgd, I think its really hard to afford 1.
A lot ask for *pay per meet* and what does that make the SB, no different from escort because of the low price and easy entry for many low baller.

SB need do a lot more than just sex, I think the companionship, chat and to make the guy feel relax. I will be turn off badly by chao ah lian or ladies that spur vulgars but I am okay with Lady with Tatoo but speak in a polite way, because SD are mostly more successful people who observe behaviors.

Definitely there are a lot of SD that doesn't give a shit about the SB life and just sex, finish, disappear.. then message the SB again for next sex session. disappear. repeat cycle. this kind won't last.

Just visit my SB yesterday at 1230am and stay at her place till 3 near 4am, 10-20 minutes of action (too long no sex cant last) and 3 hours of chatting.. talking about a business venture that she going start.. her life.. my recent happening.. watch her eat, she serve me tea.. and a lot things.. we used to date at hotel but recently goes to her house (she want help me save money and she no need travel much haha)

Thanks for sharing and hope to hear more
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Re: My Story As A Sugar Baby

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What define a "upper middle class" because its differ depending on the age group you are in.

The S$5000 for a week and a chanel bag is definitely cool. There are really extreme rich people up there.

My best was to give my sugar baby 5400 and a gift worth 700 for 3 meeting. I think there is always people higher. and to have another SB at the same period(both my SB know i got 2 SB at that time) and give her 4k for 2 meets (but got dis-engage after I found out she still actively finding SD - means she not exclusive for me).

Low baller a lot, you just see the forum you know liao. Some want pay 10,000 but want everyday sex , some troll.

Some only pay after finish the deed, i also hear from cases where the guy dont pay after doing it. Some offer 1k , 2k and a lot here asking for FwB, some post their dick photo and think its arouse the lady.(maybe ? rare case) I think dick photo won't make the heart flutter for SB, its the money and the gentlemen , on how the SD treat the SB also.

Majority of Singaporean at 30s are only making at average 4k - 6k sgd, a SB cost at least 3k sgd, I think its really hard to afford 1.
A lot ask for *pay per meet* and what does that make the SB, no different from escort because of the low price and easy entry for many low baller.

SB need do a lot more than just sex, I think the companionship, chat and to make the guy feel relax. I will be turn off badly by chao ah lian or ladies that spur vulgars but I am okay with Lady with Tatoo but speak in a polite way, because SD are mostly more successful people who observe behaviors.

Definitely there are a lot of SD that doesn't give a shit about the SB life and just sex, finish, disappear.. then message the SB again for next sex session. disappear. repeat cycle. this kind won't last.

Just visit my SB yesterday at 1230am and stay at her place till 3 near 4am, 10-20 minutes of action (too long no sex cant last) and 3 hours of chatting.. talking about a business venture that she going start.. her life.. my recent happening.. watch her eat, she serve me tea.. and a lot things.. we used to date at hotel but recently goes to her house (she want help me save money and she no need travel much haha)

Thanks for sharing and hope to hear more

Let us not define the "classes" because everyone thinks differently. I may attract lots of flake. Apologies Brad.

I am not sure what was in the mind of your previous SB when she was looking for other SDs while she was in the midst of an arrangement with you. In my perspective, or rather from a SB's perspective, we are almost never sure of when will our SD lose their interest in us. Hence there is always this "opportunity cost" issue lingering around our minds. Perhaps that was why she was still on the lookout for another SD. Then again, everyone thinks differently.

I hate it when the SD offers an amount and tries to maximise his money by getting us to agree that we have to meet x number of times in a week or a month.

I am glad that you understand what a SB does - which is more than sex. SDs knows that the arrangement is transactional yet they do not like to feel the transactional element. The approach that the SBs uses is extremely important. Some of them may not only just want sex. I tagged along a couple of business trips and sometimes all they want when they get back to the hotel is a good shower and a nice relaxing dinner. There were a few instances where both of us chat till we fell asleep

I like the way you treat your SB. Keep it up!
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Let us not define the "classes" because everyone thinks differently. I may attract lots of flake. Apologies Brad.

I am not sure what was in the mind of your previous SB when she was looking for other SDs while she was in the midst of an arrangement with you. In my perspective, or rather from a SB's perspective, we are almost never sure of when will our SD lose their interest in us. Hence there is always this "opportunity cost" issue lingering around our minds. Perhaps that was why she was still on the lookout for another SD. Then again, everyone thinks differently.

I hate it when the SD offers an amount and tries to maximise his money by getting us to agree that we have to meet x number of times in a week or a month.

I am glad that you understand what a SB does - which is more than sex. SDs knows that the arrangement is transactional yet they do not like to feel the transactional element. The approach that the SBs uses is extremely important. Some of them may not only just want sex. I tagged along a couple of business trips and sometimes all they want when they get back to the hotel is a good shower and a nice relaxing dinner. There were a few instances where both of us chat till we fell asleep

I like the way you treat your SB. Keep it up!
Its does look like you got a good SD in the past. Definitely the SB beat a FL element by the facts of what you discuss, talk and share is not just a memory loss after leaving the room.

However what SB and FL different is also the skill and experience. I know what you mean by opportunity cost. At times I also think of finding FL but some STD risk does turn me off.

When have sex with FL, the experience is different because they are more sexually active in terms of cat bath, blow , moaning and I make it a habit not to find the same FL, so a fresh new , heart beat fast experience walking down the lobby to the room of the FL.
(that was when I start finding FL 1st month, find 7-8 FL - korean, malaysian, singapore etc) and quit to find SB after.

Some SD, they are also too busy or too high profile to find FL, and some are the super upper class that money is nothing to them. They just want some companionship. For me , safe sex + a friend. (my SB)

Of course at times I will go out for a good massage (clean) to enjoy the power of money can bring relaxation to my body. Sex is also a form of relaxation. I believe. But its really depend. Sometime our mind is confuse. Just like sometime I feel very tired but I still make it a point to visit my SB, can't just throw her aside or what, she got her appeal and she is good to me, I really enjoy the tea she brew for me when I visit her thou. and the time spend with her.

I also pray for her success in her studies and exam, eventually we will leave each other. Just a matter of when.
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Re: My Story As A Sugar Baby

Hi Vivian Babe,hope your Edward Lewis will appear soon and you will have your fairy tale ending.Everyone deserves to be happy.Good Luck Babe
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Nice stories and perspective!
Thanks for sharing and I hope more to come!
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Hi Vivian Babe,hope your Edward Lewis will appear soon and you will have your fairy tale ending.Everyone deserves to be happy.Good Luck Babe
Hahaha that is sweet. Thank you but I am not doing this in hopes of meeting Edward Lewis. Come what may
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Hahaha that is sweet. Thank you but I am not doing this in hopes of meeting Edward Lewis. Come what may
Yes,come what may.But hope you won’t bump into any Philip Stuckey lol and have plenty of Barney Thompson to help you along the way.Hope you will meet nice people in your journey.
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If I may be honest, the sugar industry has been brought down by people who are not supposed to be in it. Low ballers, escorts, agents, free riders, etc. Men who does not fit in are in it, women who does not have what it takes are in it.
This is why sincere SD/SBs might wanna try going to seekingarrangement.com for their fixes instead of SBF. Just gotta watch out for cat-fishing and scams.

Seriously man, most adverts here look like glorified FL/escort services. IMO the SD/SB dynamic is akin to cultivating a proper relationship. There shouldn't be the "meet x times a month" caveat you see on practically every thread here nowadays. How is that any different from visiting the same prostitute 4 times a month on a fixed schedule?

Now I'm not saying that the SB should be at the SD's beck and call 24/7. But putting a hard cap on the frequency of meetups is just too transactional. The SB should - within reason - do whatever it takes to fulfill the SD's desires. He is taking care of your financial needs after all. If your SD wants you to binge watch Game of Thrones with him, it shouldn't be a "session". You should do it because you want to make your SD happy (and if you like dragons and titties).

On the other end of the equation, what is with all the flaming and complaining we see here when some SBs post relatively high expected allowances? Like c'mon dude, this is not some wet market where you can haggle over the cost of poultry. Every SB has her price. Can't afford it? Don't low ball, don't haggle, don't slut-shame, don't cry "spoil market", don't be bitter - just walk away with dignity.

Too many losers whining about sour grapes these days. Its ok to be poor. Nobody will judge you for that. But if you're gonna bitch about the product just because you cannot afford its price, that's just pathetic. And if you can afford it but think the SB isn't worth her asking price? Why trash the SB? She's just trying to make this shit work on her terms. If you think its a bad deal, just go get your kicks somewhere else man.

Just my 2cts on this topic. Stay cool, and have a great weekend ahead.
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This is why sincere SD/SBs might wanna try going to seekingarrangement.com for their fixes instead of SBF. Just gotta watch out for cat-fishing and scams.

Seriously man, most adverts here look like glorified FL/escort services. IMO the SD/SB dynamic is akin to cultivating a proper relationship. There shouldn't be the "meet x times a month" caveat you see on practically every thread here nowadays. How is that any different from visiting the same prostitute 4 times a month on a fixed schedule?

Now I'm not saying that the SB should be at the SD's beck and call 24/7. But putting a hard cap on the frequency of meetups is just too transactional. The SB should - within reason - do whatever it takes to fulfill the SD's desires. He is taking care of your financial needs after all. If your SD wants you to binge watch Game of Thrones with him, it shouldn't be a "session". You should do it because you want to make your SD happy (and if you like dragons and titties).

On the other end of the equation, what is with all the flaming and complaining we see here when some SBs post relatively high expected allowances? Like c'mon dude, this is not some wet market where you can haggle over the cost of poultry. Every SB has her price. Can't afford it? Don't low ball, don't haggle, don't slut-shame, don't cry "spoil market", don't be bitter - just walk away with dignity.

Too many losers whining about sour grapes these days. Its ok to be poor. Nobody will judge you for that. But if you're gonna bitch about the product just because you cannot afford its price, that's just pathetic. And if you can afford it but think the SB isn't worth her asking price? Why trash the SB? She's just trying to make this shit work on her terms. If you think its a bad deal, just go get your kicks somewhere else man.

Just my 2cts on this topic. Stay cool, and have a great weekend ahead.
Up u bro. 😊
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Seriously man, most adverts here look like glorified FL/escort services. IMO the SD/SB dynamic is akin to cultivating a proper relationship. There shouldn't be the "meet x times a month" caveat you see on practically every thread here nowadays. How is that any different from visiting the same prostitute 4 times a month on a fixed schedule?

Now I'm not saying that the SB should be at the SD's beck and call 24/7. But putting a hard cap on the frequency of meetups is just too transactional. The SB should - within reason - do whatever it takes to fulfill the SD's desires. He is taking care of your financial needs after all. If your SD wants you to binge watch Game of Thrones with him, it shouldn't be a "session". You should do it because you want to make your SD happy (and if you like dragons and titties).

On the other end of the equation, what is with all the flaming and complaining we see here when some SBs post relatively high expected allowances? Like c'mon dude, this is not some wet market where you can haggle over the cost of poultry. Every SB has her price. Can't afford it? Don't low ball, don't haggle, don't slut-shame, don't cry "spoil market", don't be bitter - just walk away with dignity.

Too many losers whining about sour grapes these days. Its ok to be poor. Nobody will judge you for that. But if you're gonna bitch about the product just because you cannot afford its price, that's just pathetic. And if you can afford it but think the SB isn't worth her asking price? Why trash the SB? She's just trying to make this shit work on her terms. If you think its a bad deal, just go get your kicks somewhere else man.

Just my 2cts on this topic. Stay cool, and have a great weekend ahead.
Sarpok what you have written. Cheers.
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This is why sincere SD/SBs might wanna try going to seekingarrangement.com for their fixes instead of SBF. Just gotta watch out for cat-fishing and scams.

Seriously man, most adverts here look like glorified FL/escort services. IMO the SD/SB dynamic is akin to cultivating a proper relationship. There shouldn't be the "meet x times a month" caveat you see on practically every thread here nowadays. How is that any different from visiting the same prostitute 4 times a month on a fixed schedule?

Now I'm not saying that the SB should be at the SD's beck and call 24/7. But putting a hard cap on the frequency of meetups is just too transactional. The SB should - within reason - do whatever it takes to fulfill the SD's desires. He is taking care of your financial needs after all. If your SD wants you to binge watch Game of Thrones with him, it shouldn't be a "session". You should do it because you want to make your SD happy (and if you like dragons and titties).

On the other end of the equation, what is with all the flaming and complaining we see here when some SBs post relatively high expected allowances? Like c'mon dude, this is not some wet market where you can haggle over the cost of poultry. Every SB has her price. Can't afford it? Don't low ball, don't haggle, don't slut-shame, don't cry "spoil market", don't be bitter - just walk away with dignity.

Too many losers whining about sour grapes these days. Its ok to be poor. Nobody will judge you for that. But if you're gonna bitch about the product just because you cannot afford its price, that's just pathetic. And if you can afford it but think the SB isn't worth her asking price? Why trash the SB? She's just trying to make this shit work on her terms. If you think its a bad deal, just go get your kicks somewhere else man.

Just my 2cts on this topic. Stay cool, and have a great weekend ahead.

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