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Old 13-06-2018, 10:49 PM
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Re: Giving up on Geylang

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Is it me or has really the standard drop like crazy in recent times? There used to be a time like 6-8 years back when we have beauties with great services almost every time I go that I will have a hard time choosing. Sometimes they are so good that I even go for $300 tarma just to enjoy both together.
i think it has nothing to do with the okt's selection. it is the macro environment. simply put- times have changed. China has progressed a lot in the past 10-15 years. in those first and second tier cities, prc gals now can easily more than what they do here.

and like what other bros have mentioned - technology advancement. prc gals now can stay hotels and channel their biz through Wechat, forums

it's no easy life coming here to work as cat150. long hours, have to take up to 10 sessions a day, so much restrictions etc. and the earning of $80 is not exactly fantastic considering so much services they had to provide

juz to share, when i was in Tw for its call gals, the service rendered is really much lesser than cat150 - no BBBJ (strictly condom), no AR, body soap nonsense. it's really just basic fark and go session. and they are not cheap either, easily $200 onwards for full job

anyway i totally concur with what senior bros said - the price needs to be adjusted if we are gona attract more premium gals here
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Re: Giving up on Geylang

i was just thinking about this comparison that day - the standard rates for HC/spas are something like right:

HJ-$50
BJ-$80
FJ-$100

assuming the gal takes all with no cut (since already pay $50 for entrance fees), the masseur can earn $80 for a simple bj as compared to a cat150 who has to strip naked let u play her whole body, bbbj, AR, and spread her legs let u fark for the same $80

isnt it easier job for the gal to work at HC/spas than being at cat150 house
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i was just thinking about this comparison that day - the standard rates for HC/spas are something like right:

HJ-$50
BJ-$80
FJ-$100

assuming the gal takes all with no cut (since already pay $50 for entrance fees), the masseur can earn $80 for a simple bj as compared to a cat150 who has to strip naked let u play her whole body, bbbj, AR, and spread her legs let u fark for the same $80

isnt it easier job for the gal to work at HC/spas than being at cat150 house
Easily said but girls at hc/spa work at risk as it's an illegal joint compared to geylang houses.
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Re: Giving up on Geylang

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i was just thinking about this comparison that day - the standard rates for HC/spas are something like right:

HJ-$50
BJ-$80
FJ-$100

assuming the gal takes all with no cut (since already pay $50 for entrance fees), the masseur can earn $80 for a simple bj as compared to a cat150 who has to strip naked let u play her whole body, bbbj, AR, and spread her legs let u fark for the same $80

isnt it easier job for the gal to work at HC/spas than being at cat150 house
ehhh actually MP in sillypore is chop carrot one leh...
the entrance fee is already the first step
after 2 to 3 tries... i stopped going when i come to my senses

and that price chart is definitely wrong..
by the last 'market standards' i went..
BM is already 100
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I would think prices need to be raised to $200 per hour for PRC girls.

Girl gets $130 and house makes $70.

This would increase a girl's earnings by 50 percent.

Perhaps that would make it more attractive for the pretty girls to come down to Singapore.

However, once you are in cat 200, you must give BBBJ, AR and frenching at the minimum.

Those who refuse to could be placed in a cat 100, where they make $50 and the house makes $50 for 40 minutes of fucking.

So girls can decide, do I want to make $130 per hour or do I want to make $75 per hour?

Hardworking ones will be rewarded accordingly.

Customers also can decide if they just want pretty face but not much service, just quickly fuck and go, then just pay $120 lah.

That's how I think things could be adjusted in the legal PRC scene.
I think it is a good idea. or give the girl 100 and the house 50 now?
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I think it is a good idea. or give the girl 100 and the house 50 now?
This is exactly what one of the shops is paying the WLs currently.
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Re: Giving up on Geylang

And i remember the time when AR is standard and frenching is normal. Nowadays u will be lucky if u can even kiss the WL
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Man, I have been chionging ..............

I went there with a regular chionging friend last night and it was like a desert in our regular house. Even when the OKT is nice enough to get outside girls, we can't even have one to our taste after like 3 rounds.

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The regular house you mentioned is probably 2831A.

Nowadays the standard of WLs and number of customers drop so much until many houses are deserted compare to the good old days.

2831A used to be filled with horny bros and many WLs going in and out often so that bros can get a good view of which WL is suitable for themselves.

Nowadays there is not much WLs moving in and out for viewing.
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And i remember the time when AR is standard and frenching is normal. Nowadays u will be lucky if u can even kiss the WL
You are right bro.

Kissing is not an entitlement now.

It is a priviledge and frenching is a bonus that is hard to come by.

Remember one bro mentioned in another thread that he has to tip An [email protected] $100 each visit to get frenching.
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Re: Giving up on Geylang

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This is exactly what one of the shops is paying the WLs currently.
actually give girl $100, shop take $50 , best if girls get extra $20 ($120) sure increase girl percentage coming by at least 50%, last checked, in phillipines china girls lowest also can get 700rmb at casino 1 shot, canada 150sgd 1 shot , hk 500-600rmb they take out of 1000hkd(raided now) , japan around same as this $120 range , macau sauna around 1000rmb they get
timing 45min,
service bbbj standard,
ar frenching optional
i think still will have young girls come.
now is no young girls wanna come

even better is close down most of the shops
left few good service okt shop survive
then all the gems inside one shop so easy to see and select
sure good business

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You are right bro.

Kissing is not an entitlement now.

It is a priviledge and frenching is a bonus that is hard to come by.

Remember one bro mentioned in another thread that he has to tip An [email protected] $100 each visit to get frenching.
WLs can't blame us for their poor biz if they are not one who can provide all the services on the list

Frenching is one of my needs that is why i have better hits with FLs since I can ask them directly... if she says no... we won't waste each other time

I can't possibly go straight up to the wl and ask her "do u French?"

The problem with GL is they can't and don't walk along with technology..
If only there is a full database of each gal in each house accessible to us with their stats.. do's and don't's
It makes my Chiong life in gl easier
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I think it is a good idea. or give the girl 100 and the house 50 now?
Your discussion should always be based on general case scenerio, which is $120 and not $150 becos $30 is for the room provider, out-call or in-call.
If you go to House A and call a gal from House B, the gal only bring home $120 and not $150.
She share the $120 with her boss.
The $30 out of your $150 goes to House A and not House B.

$30 for one hour maybe a bit high.
Maybe should be $20 like Hotel 81.

In the case of the Malaysian WLs, out of the $120, the OKT gets $20 (17%) and the WL gets $100 (83%).
$30 for the room provider.

Now the OKT gets $40 (33%) and the WL gets $80 (67%) out of $120.

I think 67% is too low for the quality of WL that we are expecting now.
We want to kiss, french, lick, squeeze, paint, AR, BBBJ, poke in-front, poke behind, doggie, standing, cow-girl, spooning, missionary, CIM, etc.

I think the WL very jialat la.

Bro unfit want to cream-pie somemore.

Actually how much should be the price is not the issue now.
Problem now is the price is fix for diff quality products coming here.

Pricing is best decided by market forces and the quality of the product.
AV fix the price and so those who dun make the mark will get not enuf buyers.
Those who worth more than $80 will not sell for $80.
Either way we get buyers and sellers mismatch.
The buyer price and seller price must meet at the economist's equilibrium point where the supply and the demand is equal.
That will be the correct price for the quality of WL in this case.

A WL should decide how she wants to price herself so as to get the correct amout of biz she is targetting at.
This is what is happening at the premium site now.
The gal decide how much she wants to price herself so as to get the right amount of biz for herself.
She can then adjust her price to get the correct amount of buyers.

This cannot happen in GL which is a fixed price regime.
AV does not allow multi-tier pricing or diff class to avoid any unnecessary disputes.
As such, the quality we are getting now is for the $80 that the WL gets.
There is no solution unless the whole GL pricing move up which I dun think it will happen any sooner.
Perhaps the OKTs can consider to trim their cut from 33% to 17% to salvage the GL economy and prevent it from slipping into a recession.

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I think the challenge is the 2 year contract n living conditions in GL
They rather stay in hotel have freedom to travel and take break back home to rest n recuperate
You are right bro.

Many young cheongsters and better quality PRC gals went to premium sites now becos of freedom and other obvious advantages over GL.
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Re: Giving up on Geylang

that feels like an economic class

GL sooner or later will be phased out...
OKT is like the agent we go through to get our goods..

Whereas the way prc FL operates is like direct selling.. no middle party involve between buyer and seller
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Bro unfit want to cream-pie somemore.
Yo Big Mouth dun anyhow let go huh

Me Apple Pie only without cream hor

The best solution is no more outcall

House $30 WL $120 (higher margin than H81)

Tomorrow I email PMO since Trump Kim gone home

So everyone free to review this issue liao

Agree?
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Yo Big Mouth dun anyhow let go huh

Me Apple Pie only without cream hor

The best solution is no more outcall

House $30 WL $120 (higher margin than H81)

Tomorrow I email PMO since Trump Kim gone home

So everyone free to review this issue liao

Agree?
Maybe after Kim came here, he may allow North Korean whores to come SG work in Geylang 🤔😆
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